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So, comic books were right after all?

  • Apr. 7th, 2008 at 10:10 AM
Lil Attila
Did anyone else listen to Opie and Anthony this morning, when they were talking to theoretical physicist Michio Kaku? He wrote books such as "Hyperspace," "Parellel Worlds," and his latest book is "Physics of the Impossible."

On the show, he talked about the idea that we really live in a Multiverse, where parallel realities, or universes, are created as a result of the choices we make or significant events playing out differently. Like, there is a universe where I didn't get fired from Starbucks, and as a result didn't work at Borders, and probably didn't become a journalist, and so on.

And DC and Marvel have been dealing with Multiverse storylines for how long now? Has this idea of an actual Multiverse been around for awhile, and I'm just hearing about it now? Or were comic book writers on to something before the scientists thought it was possible?

Comments

[info]chap wrote:
Apr. 7th, 2008 02:27 pm (UTC)
Been around for a while. It goes even deeper then that too, but I don't remember enough right now to go into it.
[info]chap wrote:
Apr. 7th, 2008 02:29 pm (UTC)
A lot of it by the way has to do with Quantum Physics.
[info]sammytequila wrote:
Apr. 7th, 2008 02:29 pm (UTC)
Gotcha. By the way, do you remember a few months ago you were telling me about a military drug experiment that caused people to see midgets and clowns? What was that all about again?
[info]haunted_spark wrote:
Apr. 7th, 2008 03:15 pm (UTC)
....scariest drug ever
[info]chap wrote:
Apr. 7th, 2008 03:31 pm (UTC)
I'm trying to find out what it was called. I'm remembering N13, but I could be wrong.
[info]starlernight wrote:
Apr. 7th, 2008 04:07 pm (UTC)
i was actually thinking about this...

so, i believe the theory was that it was a drug that allowed people to see into other planes of existence or something like that, correct?
bc why would a drug specifically cause people to hallucinate midgets and clowns? so the answer was that the things were really there but the drug allowed people to se them, correct?

but i was thinking about it... and it just seems like the drug must create a certain TYPE of hallucination, a similar TYPE of hallucination, and our brains always want to categorize things... so in their altered states, the brains just automtically categorize this type of hallucination into the premade categories that they are closest to (midgets and clowns)...
kind of like babies sometimes call anything round "ball." since they don't know what it is, they are fitting it into the most similar available category. so this is my theory for the drug. it creates hallucinations of things that don't exist and our brains don't have a name for it, so they get categorized a certain way. and they are similar enough hallucinations for everyone that they get categorized the same, or similar, ways.
[info]chap wrote:
Apr. 7th, 2008 06:12 pm (UTC)
I had a similar thought to this as well at some point. It was just weird that all different people would describe it the same way, but I think that can make sense. ITs just weird that it made everyone see the same type of thing. I think the problem with that drug is that they have never before made something to make you and I have the exact same type of hallucination and have no way of explaining that. They can make a drug that they know will make you hallucinate, but they have no control over what it will make you see, which is why this was very weird and eveyone had different theories which included alternate dimensions.

Of course the answer could be the simplest solution which is that they made a drug that actually does make everyone hallucinate the same thing.
[info]starlernight wrote:
Apr. 7th, 2008 06:27 pm (UTC)
right, or at least, the same KIND of thing. like, it would be EXTREMELY weird for a drug to actually make everyone hallucinate clowns.
but if a drug acts on just the right part(s) of the brain, it doesn't seem so unbelievable that it might say, make you hallucinate human-like figures... and maybe there's some other aspect of it with say, colors... and the closest that the human brain (esp in that state) can come to categorizing that is "clowns." do you know what i mean? so it's still a more specific hallucination than other drugs, but maybe not as specific as it may seem at first.
[info]chap wrote:
Apr. 7th, 2008 06:32 pm (UTC)
Oh by the way they were never described exactly as clowns or midgets. They were clown-like and midget-like. So the people knew they werne't looking at clowns or midgets, but that is the closest thing they could approximate it to.

What they saw wasn't what was classified as the weird part. IT was the fact that everyone claimed they saw the exact same thing which was the hard part because as I said, they had never created anything to make people hallucinate the same thing.

Man I have to go back and find more info on this study. Its killing me that I can't remember what it was called now.
[info]beefalo wrote:
Apr. 7th, 2008 05:14 pm (UTC)
Dam the Multiverses go back to the before the 1st Crisis . DC had way to many Supermen and Batman in so many books at once it didnt make a whole lot of sense. So DC cleanded it up with the Crisis and the Multiverses. It may evan go before that but that id have to double check on .
[info]elmo_iscariot wrote:
Apr. 7th, 2008 06:24 pm (UTC)
Pre-Crisis solidarity.
[info]chap wrote:
Apr. 7th, 2008 10:05 pm (UTC)
I'm going back and listening to the O&A episode show from today now, and yeah its all Quantum Physics. I've thought about trying to learn more and more about it, but as you can imagine that shit is hard :-).

I was actually just reading/listening to a book called blasphemy which is about what he's talking about doing in 2 months by creating dark matter. In the novel they were able to do it and then they heard the voice of God (or so they thought). Interesting book.

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